An Old Newb Finally Joins the Pimps (long post, some pics)

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:46 pm

How ironic you posted here today. I just happen to stop by Tiny last night, and read your post where you called this Chevy body ugly. I almost said what I really thought about the Dodge body, but wasn't really in the mood to stir things up.

Welcome to the hood.

©sessiz

You do nice work, I dig what you've done with the bed and roll cage. As far as the front end, I happen to like the front end. I would have left the bumper, and built a brush guard around that.

Keep it up. I'd like to see more.

©crazydave

frizzen · Post by **frizzen** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:29 am

It's cool, you can stir the shit. I'm not all about either of them, but it's what trucks RS sells without a chassis kit. Even stirring up shit is commenting on it, which is more than I was getting at Tiny for a while, most of the insults to truck was trying to get SOME reaction over there. Once I've got a few of the cheaper easy to find bodies modded pretty well, I'm gonna take on the Bigfoot F-350 and Hmmv bodies which I do like more. Though I gotta admit, the trail modded chevy is really starting to win me over; but if I ever say that about something like an Aztec, H2, or Element, please slap the hell out of me!

That's cool, I thought about building around their bumper, but looking at the real Silverado my buddy has, it's a plastic bumper cover, so I didn't figure it'd be able to handle the stress of the makebelieve things it'll encounter. Besides, a big ol' rock crushing winch bumper seemed like it'd stand out more than a stocker with brushguard or bullbars added. I'm not really sure what's common practice on building real offroaders that had bumper covers stock.

Thanks for all the support so far everybody!

Winch drum installed (bad pic so you can't see it's wrapped, and it probably needs end plates), check out my recovery points way down below bumper, the pullback sandrail/dunebuggy things in background were my soft spring donors.

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:46 am

frizzen wrote: Though I gotta admit, the trail modded chevy is really starting to win me over; but if I ever say that about something like an Aztec, H2, or Element, please slap the hell out of me!

You got it.

That's cool, I thought about building around their bumper, but looking at the real Silverado my buddy has, it's a plastic bumper cover, so I didn't figure it'd be able to handle the stress of the makebelieve things it'll encounter. Besides, a big ol' rock crushing winch bumper seemed like it'd stand out more than a stocker with brushguard or bullbars added. I'm not really sure what's common practice on building real offroaders that had bumper covers stock.

I think standard practice is to bolt some chrome thingy on there that's more for looks. I see where you're coming from now, and yours definatly looks like one of the functional ones.

payaso · Post by **payaso** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:20 pm

What scale is the buggy pullback in the back ground?

silla

PimpIke · Post by **PimpIke** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:33 pm

my brother use to have that SAME exact buggy as the red one without the decals and stickers... i think it runs off a electric motor...

frizzen · Post by **frizzen** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:22 pm

Good point man, I forgot about the poser 'froaders who do it just for looks instead of actual usefulness. I wanted mine to have something that looks like you can go charge straight into a huge rock, and win.

I went searching, Biohazard built one kinda like you were talking about. http://bitpimps.lixlink.com/pages/phpFo ... php?t=5200
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No idea on buggy scale. The body is 1.5 Bit Char-G long. They're just a set of cheap pullbacks, no motor. If you want I can snag a pic comparing size. Some useful parts, but not all that many. Soft springs are probably worth a couple bucks for the handling improvement.
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Winch inner drum parts list, bed, taillight routing...

It's being a pain in ass, gotta spend some more time mentally building winch retract.

Oh yeah, is this avatar cool, or is it a bit much for pimps like you?

Finks · Post by **Finks** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 12:50 pm

frizzen wrote:Oh yeah, is this avatar cool, or is it a bit much for pimps like you?

Bah Dude, I would say not enough, she has to be covered in shit to get a rise outta this crew. Welcome to the Hood, plop your ass on our stoop and enjoy.

©sessiz 05

frizzen · Post by **frizzen** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:20 pm

Alright cool, I wasn't sure if it was "Family Fucking Friendly" enough for all the newbs (like me) or little 12yos like I'm still used to from lurking at TinyRC.

The winch's automatic retract is kinda on hold until I can find the right hardware to make it all work happy.

You can spool out the line to do recovery, but you've got to pop off the body and wind it back onto the drum afterwards. It's cool, but not cool enough yet. Must be more pimp.
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I just pulled my 3rd zz-m straight out of the box, and can honestly say you HAVE to do long travel suspension and soft springs. It gets SO much better!

sessiz · Post by **sessiz** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:42 pm

frizzen wrote:
Oh yeah, is this avatar cool, or is it a bit much for pimps like you?

I think it's time I change my avatar again.

Coop is one of my alltime favorites.

payaso · Post by **payaso** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:12 pm

sessiz wrote:Coop is one of my alltime favorites.

Word.... They sell alot of his stuff at the head shops here.

I have the devil dude flippin the bird on the hood of my Revo.

silla

SuperFly · Post by **SuperFly** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:43 pm

frizzen wrote:Alright cool, I wasn't sure if it was "Family Fucking Friendly" enough for all the newbs (like me) or little 12yos like I'm still used to from lurking at TinyRC.

The winch's automatic retract is kinda on hold until I can find the right hardware to make it all work happy. You can spool out the line to do recovery, but you've got to pop off the body and wind it back onto the drum afterwards. It's cool, but not cool enough yet. Must be more pimp.

While I was waiting for a humongous job to make it's way through my printer, I put some thought to this. Don't ask me why, but I've just been trying to think of non-traditional solutions to problems that pop up.

Anyway, what about using a piece of a rubber band on a parallel spool? It's not as controllable as a motor, but a hell of a lot easier to squeeze in there. I could sketch it for ya if you want, but basically as you pull the winch cable out the front of the car, it forces a short length of elastic band to stretch and wind around the same spool, although you might want a spacer to keep the winch cable and the rubber band from getting tangled. I could be wrong, but I think this is the basic principle behind dolls that have a string you pull and it slowly retracts as the doll talks.

EDIT: Ok better yet, make the axle that the winch cable spool spins on out of a rubber band, and make sure it's well-fixed to the spool and the housing. As you pull the cable out, it twists the rubber band, and when you let go, the rubber band would want to spin back to neutral.

frizzen · Post by **frizzen** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:05 pm

I like the rubberband idea, but they tend to oxidize and go to hell much sooner than I'd like. Plus with my current winch spool it's only got a tiny bit of room between body and shell with the spacing I need to keep from binding winch cable. I'd need something that would stretch an absurd amount (about 3x lenght), and wouldn't have too high of pull at full extension, wouldn't be too thick, and many other specs I haven't found yet. So, I've got the hair spring, very thin, some retract tension, though not the best and I'll probably destroy it with a little winching, but for the meantime it should Git R Done.

Motorized would be ideal, but I'm too cheap/lazy to do a 3ch RX/TX setup. A ZZ-M with a wormgear meshing with teeth cut on cable drum would be the way to go. Too eazy, very trick though.

I like your torsion bundle as axle idea, but I think that would work better if I were using the Cab area instead of the Hood area to mount it. Might be worth looking into also.

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I'm not sure quite how I'll do it when I'm done, but when you get your lowered rides stuck in the snow or run aground on a curb, I'll be there to winch you back to freedom.

frizzen · Post by **frizzen** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:57 pm

I got my winch done today!

Here's a crappy pic because you ought to be pimp enough to figure it out on your own, if not ask.

Alright, I've already gone over what went into it. Assembly is pretty straight forward, wind the hair spring and the winch cable opposite eachother, if everything is as free as it should be, you're gold and it'll work perfect. Remember to set some preload to keep winch hook up right at bumper.

Hits almost full extension, retracts to bumper. Looks amazingly realistic! Definately a good mod.

Took more time than I'd like doing mental engineering and parts scrounging, but worth it to me.

Now I just gotta put recovery points on another body and get someone else to help me go run a "trail"!

In the mean time, here's a pic to drool over

frizzen · Post by **frizzen** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:28 pm

Dragging up an old-ass post to prevent making more useless crap everywhere, I just wanted to say I've got a short video of me doing some "Buddy winching".

Desperado is sitting on 3 DVD cases, Project SingleCab is sitting on 1 DVD case. SingleCab can't climb the vertical 2 case difference, it just sits down on it's rear bumper; so time to spool off some cable, lock cable down at a useable length and I hook up Desperado and S.C. nose-to-nose. This is where video starts. The actual climb takes under 2 seconds. I guess it's really more of a Dead Pull than a true Winching, but it's close enough for me at 1/64 scale.

The file is 6 sec long, filmed on my new very cheap camera while I was also trying to operate 2 ZZ-m transmitters. If I had a video editor, I would have shown more, but I think you'll like it anyway. You probably *WILL* need a fairly new version of the DIVX Codec to view the *.avi file. This is my first time posting a video clip to a messageboard, please let me know how I should have done this instead.

IF your browser is set up to work with DIVX, try this
http://bitpimps.lixlink.com/pages/phpGa ... =298&pos=8

Maxximum Attack · Post by **Maxximum Attack** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:36 pm