rear tire setup

hogjowlz · Post by **hogjowlz** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:21 am

ok i was home sick yesterday sittin on the couch and i figured it was time to crack out the xmod that i hadnt touched in like 4 days.

i tried to paint it last week and well when using chrome paint wait several hours before painting over it. most paint i can put stuff over it after 45mins but no the chrome just went crazy and bubbled up in a few spots ruining a very blingy paintjob. blah ok enough of that sidetrack back to the topic

i was sittin on my couch thinking "i should put that blue stage2 motor back in" well when i did it the first time i had the problem of my tires expanding and just kinda floating off the wheels causing the wheels to scrape which sucks ass. so i put the blue motor back in and busted out the testors glue and cleaned off the tires and wheels. then i turned the car on and ran the wheels on the super slow setting and spun the glue over the wheels kinda like working on a laithe but you are adding glue instead of cutting shit away. this seems to be the trick for getting the glue to sit on there even and stuff. after all that i rememberd how payaso put razor cuts in his bit tires so i figured that it should be real easy to do on an xmod and well it was. just be careful not to cut too deep. so i tested it on my carpet and wow theres a hell of a lot more grip. ill let ya know how the razor cuts helped when i put it on cement.

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:24 pm

Hey Hog, I've noticed you have an adversion towards super glue, but I got to tell you, for glueing tires it is the way to go.

I just glued mine day before yesterday. I just used regular old generic branded super glue from my grocery store, and it worked just as good as the hobby stuff on my 1/10th scale cars. These tires are not coming off until I cut them off.

As for traction, I got the tire set, and the soft tires are just like stuck, on whatever surface, but the asphalt wore them down pretty quick like. So I switched to the hard, which I didn't think would give much traction, but they actually grip great on the asphalt. Better than the stock tires, which I actually put back on to get a little slip through the corners.

I also packed my diff with grease, because I was haveing a problem with one wheel lifting, and unloading. The grease solved my unloading problem, but it tightened it up too much, and I was having a problem with spinning out. So I grabbed one wheel, and pullled the throttle to spin the diff out, and loosen it up. That helped, and I had decent control pitching through corners. (Which helps with the steering radius issue) Still I'm gonna take it apart, and clean a little more grease out. I might try to find a lighter grease. I used some bearing grease from the auto store, pretty thick stuff.

hogjowlz · Post by **hogjowlz** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:34 pm

well the reason i like testors glue so much is that if i want to take stuff off i can without destroying it. hmm packed the ball? i put graphite on all the gears last night and well ill try to test later and see whatsup with performance.

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:54 pm

Yeah that makes sense wanting to remove your tires some day. I'm just used to 1/10 scale where your throwing money around, 5 dollas for a pair of tires, you just automatically add in 3 bucks for a pair of rims, 7 for the fancy rims. So 10 bucks for 3 complete sets of rims seemed like a pretty good deal to me, and I was just gonna glue all my tires to own set of rims.

hogjowlz · Post by **hogjowlz** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:01 pm

well ill see how this goes and if i buy the tire set i may go the permanent route. are the other tire compounds really any different?

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:10 pm

hogjowlz wrote:well ill see how this goes and if i buy the tire set i may go the permanent route. are the other tire compounds really any different?

Yeah they are, the soft is sticky soft, and the hard are definately harder, and don't seem to wear to fast on asphalt. I think the treaded tires make a difference, but I haven't experimented much with them.

My only gripe about the tire set is that the soft is so drastically softer than the hard, and vice versa. The stock tires are good all around tires, I would have liked to see them included, or at least readily available at the stores, 'cause you know I'm gonna wear these out quick on the black top. A treaded version of the stock medium compound would have been nice too.

SuperFly · Post by **SuperFly** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:13 pm

The tire compounds are quite a bit different from stock and eachother. We're using the soft tread tires in the rear and the stock tires in front, works pretty well on our surface.

Here's a little tidbit that should make glueing the tires on the rims a little easier to swallow. They will wear out and you'll need to replace them anyway, faster than you might think. I've never done 1/10 or anything other than the odd Tyco r/c, and after 3-4 nights of hard drivin, my Xmod rear soft treads are about done. And that's on a very smooth painted floor. On a tennis court, I can imagine the softs lasting one session.

hogjowlz · Post by **hogjowlz** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:20 pm

ya i figured they were gona wear pretty quick so thats why i did the razor cuts thing.

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:25 pm

SuperFly wrote:I've never done 1/10 or anything other than the odd Tyco r/c, and after 3-4 nights of hard drivin, my Xmod rear soft treads are about done.

See that's what I'm saying, that stuff got expensive, and that was the mind set I was moving towards. I'm gonna try to avoid that, because I don't want to take the Xmod that serious.

I'm still gonna get my wheel set, and super glue my tires. I'll just cut them off to recycle my rims. Who care cares if they look hack, my point of view on the Xmods is strictly competitive racing. Now I need some competitors.

I also thinking about super glueing on all the body pieces, ditch the extra weight of all them screws. The Xmods don't need them, it's heavy enough for it's size.

hogjowlz · Post by **hogjowlz** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:48 pm

ok after putting in the blue(6:1) motor and gluing the tires and cutting some tread into them i took her out on the street in front of my friend's shop. its got a slight grade unlike my steep ass hill.

well lesson learned last night: down hill runs at full speed = really bad for your shocks and drive train. i somehow dislodged the spacer thing that holds the axle onto the differential and now im gona have to take it apart and figure out how to fix it.

but for those who dont have xmods cuz they are afriad of spending all that $$ i dont think ya gota worry. i have no urge to buy anything else but the bearings and probably the body kit so itl be easier to fix up my fooked up paint job. but if ur into rc cars these things kick serious ass.

just dont drive downhill

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 6:40 pm

I'm kinda waiting on a TinyRC to come out with his bearings, but if he don't hurry, I'm gonna break down and get the RS one.

I'd like to get the wheels, suspension set, and AWD kit, but I'm not stressing on that stuff. The stage 2 motors are pretty fast, and I'm satisfied for now.

I do plan on trying a couple Tamiya motors, and the Xspeed motor. They're like 5 dola motors, might as well check them out to see how much faster they are than the Xmod motors.

I'm debating over upgrading the FETs, I want to keep it legal just in case RS's little racing season comes through my town.

If I really want to go fast I think a 5th cell would do me fine, and that'll only cost me a couple bucks if wanted to do that.

So there's lots of cheap hop ups you can do.