GT-R Drifter

Skyline_GTR_34 · Post by **Skyline_GTR_34** » Sat May 29, 2004 9:31 pm

I made a drift car out of my xmod. For the drift to work u have to have 4 wheel drive and custom tires, mine our wraped in duck tape witch works pretty good, i am impressed how well it drifts with a stage 2 drag motor

New pics coming...

hogjowlz · Post by **hogjowlz** » Sat May 29, 2004 9:47 pm

haha thats gota be halarious to drive.

JDM-R34 · Post by **JDM-R34** » Sat May 29, 2004 10:03 pm

I thought cars have to be 2 wheel drive to drift, well in D1 Championships they usually are, but for a Xmod I guess it works, because usually awd skylines are converted into rwd so they can drift better, because awd gives them to much handling.

Good job though, Keep up the good work!

Skyline_GTR_34 · Post by **Skyline_GTR_34** » Sun May 30, 2004 9:20 am

you are right, with a real car u drift with rear whell, but whith a r/c u drift with 4 wheels, when u just have rear wheel with and r/c the back tires r spining and ur front tires r trying to grip but since its rear whell the back slides out, but for all wheel it stabels in the courner

Sky

Son_Gokou · Post by **Son_Gokou** » Sun May 30, 2004 8:55 pm

You COULD drift a RWD RC car, but you'd have to play around with the throttle, say, accelerate slowly, and when you're at a good speed, turn and slide out the rear, but let off the throttle...that would result in a nice drift (I think), but you'd also have to be careful with the throttle..too much and you'll have wheelspin, and whip the butt around too much.

Overall...cool tires....

viperdout · Post by **viperdout** » Sun May 30, 2004 9:00 pm

I've drifted RWD, and I cannot break the tires loose unless the floor is really dusty, like at school, with AWD. RWD is still better for drifting, but AWD is great for handling.

Son_Gokou · Post by **Son_Gokou** » Sun May 30, 2004 9:05 pm

viperdout wrote:I've drifted RWD, and I cannot break the tires loose unless the floor is really dusty, like at school, with AWD. RWD is still better for drifting, but AWD is great for handling.

Some people have a hard time breaking the rear tires loose, others have a hard time controlling the power sent to the rear wheels. If you can't break the tires loose, either your setup (gears and motor) don't have enough torque, or the tires are sticky and cause some resistance.

viperdout · Post by **viperdout** » Sun May 30, 2004 9:32 pm

At school at at home, it's S2 Drag with soft slicks (haven't tried my new tires yet since my X is in pieces), and I can do perfect drifts with a stock car and fairly slippery floors.

Skyline_GTR_34 · Post by **Skyline_GTR_34** » Sun May 30, 2004 10:37 pm

yah i no u can drift with a rwd but with all wheel drive u can just full troltel all the way trew the turn. works for me..

Sky

Son_Gokou · Post by **Son_Gokou** » Sun May 30, 2004 11:33 pm

viperdout wrote:At school at at home, it's S2 Drag with soft slicks (haven't tried my new tires yet since my X is in pieces), and I can do perfect drifts with a stock car and fairly slippery floors.

Some drift techniques can come from "throttle steering". This can come from turning slightly, then gunning the throttle and losing traction, then releasing the steering wheel. The thing is, the loss of traction and momentum gained from jerking the rear out (that's what she said) will push the rear further if the rear still has a loss of traction, even if the front wheels are dead on straight.

Here's a good example of "throttle steer":

http://www.kteamtrivia.co.uk/Motorsport ... ideos.html

Check out the second vid, from top to bottom. Save the video, and watch after it says "In case you missed it, here it is again in slow motion". Notice how that car's front wheels are pointed straight while the car is drifting, hence the term "throttle steer". Ever see someone in a wheel chair? If they power the wheels themselves with their hands, they are turning one wheel forward and the other backward, turning themselves. This principle is applied to the front wheels in "throttle steer", and that's how the car safely turns sharply without spinning out...that car in the vid is an FR (front engine, rear wheel drive) car. When that driver wanted to zoom straight out of the turn, he reduced the throttle, or gave the rear wheels less torque (too much torque in wheel rotation causes wheelspin) by either shifting up to a less-torquey gear (dunno whether it's called "higher gear" or "lower gear"), or by taking his foot off the gas.

That's a good technique to use with RWD Xmods. Just turn sharply for a split second, and since the wheels in the back have more rpm, they have a little bit of slip. Turning sharply slows down the speed of the car a tad bit, and jerks a bit of weight forward, and this allows the rear to slip out a bit...but since the wheels are turned only for a split second, the car doesn't spin out so easily. I remember micromatch telling me that with his Mini-Z, he turned the wheel quickly 5 times to produce a nice drift.

Powersliding is not to be confused with drifting. Powersliding is just whipping the butt of the car around the corner.

If any of this info is wrong, feel free to correct.

HirotoR34 · Post by **HirotoR34** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:43 pm

Anybody forgotten the WRC? Whoever says you can't drift 4WD for real is full of it. I've seen more WRC cars drifting on tarmac than FR Drift comps. It takes a different technique. You have to upset the balance of the car drastically going into the corner (side brake works well), mash the throttle and absolutely no countersteering.

Bit boy · Post by **Bit boy** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:18 pm

real men drift with 2WD

HirotoR34 · Post by **HirotoR34** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:51 pm

Bit boy wrote:real men drift with 2WD

Dunno about that

skyline204 · Post by **skyline204** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:10 pm

I have did this mod to my mini-z and my xmod and i found out that it makes both of the rcs go faster... I'd like to know why this is. and i also did only have them RWD. both were stock too. I guess this can be a simple mod to make it faster but my xmod can already drift without. thats whats cool bout xmods

Finks · Post by **Finks** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:31 am

Somebody shoot me