Undergroundxmods.com X2 Lightspeed Pro Edition = ownage

[pimpsmurf]

I just got my X2LSPE running in my xmod today. (Less than 2 hours ago)

I also have a ph2t crafted plasmatomic (neo config) motor that I havn't gotten in yet. I am waiting on the lipos to charge right now.

The plasmatomic is going to have a seriously hard time competing with the X2LSPE. I've seen video of plasmatomic in action before, but this X2 is unlike anything I've seen (other than brushless mambas).

If you got the bones, I highly recommend it despite it's very short runtime (2 minutes tops before it overheats.)

Head to Head with video is coming soon!

--JNY

[stagg]

I just got my X2LSPE running in my xmod today. (Less than 2 hours ago)

I also have a ph2t crafted plasmatomic (neo config) motor that I havn't gotten in yet. I am waiting on the lipos to charge right now.

The plasmatomic is going to have a seriously hard time competing with the X2LSPE. I've seen video of plasmatomic in action before, but this X2 is unlike anything I've seen (other than brushless mambas).

If you got the bones, I highly recommend it despite it's very short runtime (2 minutes tops before it overheats.)

Head to Head with video is coming soon!

--JNY

LOL 2 minutes, thats BULLSHIT! Who would want that? not even fun to be usable.

[civicsr2cool]

I just got my X2LSPE running in my xmod today. (Less than 2 hours ago)

I also have a ph2t crafted plasmatomic (neo config) motor that I havn't gotten in yet. I am waiting on the lipos to charge right now.

The plasmatomic is going to have a seriously hard time competing with the X2LSPE. I've seen video of plasmatomic in action before, but this X2 is unlike anything I've seen (other than brushless mambas).

If you got the bones, I highly recommend it despite it's very short runtime (2 minutes tops before it overheats.)

Head to Head with video is coming soon!

--JNY

LOL 2 minutes, thats BULLSHIT! Who would want that? not even fun to be usable.

drag racing would be perfect with a 2 minute run i dont see how he could race it anyway with that much power

[pimpsmurf]

Well, that is a big negative on the video. I put the plasmatomic in, and managed to roast yet another V2.2.

I am starting to think it is possible I am pulling enough current to require cutting the traces on the V2.2. I don't know, but I managed to melt all the solder off of the FET-looking thing next to the negative motor output. it slide off the side of the board, and the positive motor wire melted off too. I havn't checked for chassis damage/etc yet as I was about to fucking cry. I've been without my xmod for over 2 months now and I'm not extremely pleased to say the least to have it out of commission again. I've been promising Mike at UndergroundXmods.com (PX) and ph2t a detailed video shootout between the two. Sucks.

I guess I'm going to ditch the v2.2 and go to a woahnelly v1.3. I'm not happy at all.

Anyway, I did get a few passes out of the plasmatomic before I managed to fry the bugger. I am very impressed. With a blue pinion, I couldn't get it to top speed on my asphalt driveway. Sucks I now don't have the chance to take it to a tennis court. It definately had close to the amount of torque the X2 had (the X2 was on a 12 tooth, the plasmatomic a 11 tooth, both with blue gears.) With this setup, the X2 still seemed to have a little faster acceration with a "butt dyno", so to speak. The X2 was also no where near it's top speed either.

Looks like another 2 weeks before I'll have it running again. Shit... I can't believe this...

On a side note, the v2.2 I was sent as a replacement for my original one I fried had the polarity reversed somehow. I believe when you get a V2.2 swap from AM, you get a refurbished V2.2. It definately looked different than the original one, and had foam tape on it that melted off.

Sucks to be me,
-JNY

[mod_o_matic]

I bet ph2t wouldn't mind a trade. Give him your fried V2 and he should be able to give you a discounted if not free nelly...i am gessing..not sure...

[viperdout]

I just got my X2LSPE running in my xmod today. (Less than 2 hours ago)

I also have a ph2t crafted plasmatomic (neo config) motor that I havn't gotten in yet. I am waiting on the lipos to charge right now.

The plasmatomic is going to have a seriously hard time competing with the X2LSPE. I've seen video of plasmatomic in action before, but this X2 is unlike anything I've seen (other than brushless mambas).

If you got the bones, I highly recommend it despite it's very short runtime (2 minutes tops before it overheats.)

Head to Head with video is coming soon!

--JNY

LOL 2 minutes, thats BULLSHIT! Who would want that? not even fun to be usable.

Yeah, it is. My mamba doesn't even get warm and it smokes tires.

[betty.k]

I bet ph2t wouldn't mind a trade. Give him your fried V2 and he should be able to give you a discounted if not free nelly...i am gessing..not sure...

i can't believe you would think that let alone post it. what the fuck is anyone supposed to do with that burnt peice of shit? make jewellery?

would you swap a brand new nelly for for an incinerated v2?? if so, pm me i got some REALLY cool fucked shit i'll swap with ya

now smurfy, how many more expensive mods do you wanna fry before you realise that you're expecting too much? liths alone are pushing it, super hot motors alone are pushing it, overgearing alone is pushing it. and yet you combine all three and wonder why things fuck up?
you gotta compromise, if the motor overheats gear down or use a higher turn motor. i know you're set on liths so don't expect everything to work with them.

having said that my 4 x nimh would cream you on a track

[pimpsmurf]

actually, I sold the burnt v2.2 to ph2t! hehe

As far as pushing it, I just got a MZM and sold the xmod to ph2t.

I'm currently doing 2 projects, one is a woahnelly deluxe MZM with 11.1V lipo w/ protector and crazy alloy for dragging, and 1 is a 4 cell mamba 6800kv MZM.

I'm waiting on the pinions right now, and the mamba will mesh directly with the diff gear. no maingear installed.

There are a few kinks to my plan for world domination. I have to figure a way to get the stock kyosho steering system to work with an aftermarket reciever, or get the stock electronics to work with the mamba. I'm not sure how to do either, although I hope one is possible. Otherwise I'll hack a micro servo into the front gearbox with little regard to appearance... It's not like you will see it much anyway.

-JNY

[Cheesehead]

A "standard size" R/C servo's electronics (such as a HS-322) should work pretty well in conjuntion with the MZM's steering servo. The trick is getting the pot on the MZM's steering servo to correspond in resistance to the pot on the servo it came out of. (I'm assuming that the MZM's servo has the pot and motor linked directly to the PCB, as opposed to a seperate bit of electronics as in a standard 3-wire hobby servo.
However, I doubt that you could get it to work in any other fashion. You need something with feedback to control the steering.

[viperdout]

actually, I sold the burnt v2.2 to ph2t! hehe

As far as pushing it, I just got a MZM and sold the xmod to ph2t.

I'm currently doing 2 projects, one is a woahnelly deluxe MZM with 11.1V lipo w/ protector and crazy alloy for dragging, and 1 is a 4 cell mamba 6800kv MZM.

I'm waiting on the pinions right now, and the mamba will mesh directly with the diff gear. no maingear installed.

There are a few kinks to my plan for world domination. I have to figure a way to get the stock kyosho steering system to work with an aftermarket reciever, or get the stock electronics to work with the mamba. I'm not sure how to do either, although I hope one is possible. Otherwise I'll hack a micro servo into the front gearbox with little regard to appearance... It's not like you will see it much anyway.

-JNY

Well, it's easier to get the MZM servo to work with the aftermarket receiver. Buy an HS55, take the electronics out, and solder the motor and pot wires to the corresponding spots. You have now converted your MZM's servo to a 3-wire setup.

Now, onto your Mamba plan. First, you void the warranty with 4 cells, and frankly, I know of nothing where you'd even need more than 11.1 volts (go drive an 18T with a 6800 and 3 li-po cells and you will not want 4). Hell, even 11.1 volts is excessive with Mambas.

Second, I have 1 word to describe this project: stupid. Yeah yeah, I did the same thing with an xmod, and discovered something: IT'S WAY TOO FUCKING POWERFUL! It chews gears every time I run it (good mesh and all), and it just breaks the rear wheels loose. Go watch the video on atomicshi...I mean atomicmods with the nuke 130 and 2 li-ions. The thing does rolling wheelies. Multiply the power of that by roughly 10. Actually, more like 15 times the power. Not only is the MZM RWD, but you're putting more weight in back than stock, which means you will get 0 wear on the front tires due to them being in the air all the time.

Third, it's cheaper to buy an RC18T, Minizilla, or whatever 1:18 you like and throw a Mamba in, and it's also easier. My zilla is far more fun than any 1:28 I've ever owned. The only thing that beats it in the price to fun ratio is a bit, and even that's close, but you can buy many bits for 400 bucks.

Edit: Forgot to mention, the gearing on my xmod is a 28 tooth pinion with 24 teeth on the bevel, and the torque is still overboard.

[pimpsmurf]

LMAO! 4 NMHd cells!

I will be using the mamba 6800kv with 4 NMhd cells without the maingear. So the mamba pinion will go directly to the drivetrain. I fully expect that it will be insanely powerful, but I'm hoping the alloy and reduced torque from a 4cell NMHd cell, and the removal of the maingear will take enough torque off to allow it to do more than spin-flips. I believe the castle link software allows you to do throttle curves also, which would be useful and possibly still allow race/extreme timing for stupid top speed. I'll bet that if you could keep the wheels down, it would be capable of rediculous 50mph+ speeds.

My MZM has seen top performance on 7.4v systems, and it currently moving to a 11.1v woahnelly deluxe with a low-turn 22ga silver magnet wire motor, whenever the nelly makes it here. I'm sure that will be awsome for a few weeks... Then it will surely seem slow and the mamba will be waiting.

As soon as I get the tekin brushless ESC, i'm moving the mamba ESC to the MZM (Aon 4900 on the Half8) with the setup I talked about, and the nelly deluxe to a 4 (NMHD) cell Evo xmod.

Thanks a lot for that info on the HS55!!! That was invaluable! I'm thinking I'll put an itty bitty reciever in the center of the chassis (perhaps remove the plastic case and shrink wrap it?), and the 4 NMHD cells where the stock batteryholders go (preferably in a CF chassis! ). It should be pretty clean cut, with the exception of the mamba motor mount. I'm guessing the bigger the pinion the better. I should probably put some sort of failsafe in it too... *shrug*

If I get a new alloy front gearbox, or this one repaired, it would help a little with the weight. My concern would be with uncontrolable torque.

We will see...

-JNY

[viperdout]

LMAO! 4 NMHd cells!

I will be using the mamba 6800kv with 4 NMhd cells without the maingear. So the mamba pinion will go directly to the drivetrain. I fully expect that it will be insanely powerful, but I'm hoping the alloy and reduced torque from a 4cell NMHd cell, and the removal of the maingear will take enough torque off to allow it to do more than spin-flips. I believe the castle link software allows you to do throttle curves also, which would be useful and possibly still allow race/extreme timing for stupid top speed. I'll bet that if you could keep the wheels down, it would be capable of rediculous 50mph+ speeds.

My MZM has seen top performance on 7.4v systems, and it currently moving to a 11.1v woahnelly deluxe with a low-turn 22ga silver magnet wire motor, whenever the nelly makes it here. I'm sure that will be awsome for a few weeks... Then it will surely seem slow and the mamba will be waiting.

As soon as I get the tekin brushless ESC, i'm moving the mamba ESC to the MZM (Aon 4900 on the Half8) with the setup I talked about, and the nelly deluxe to a 4 (NMHD) cell Evo xmod.

Thanks a lot for that info on the HS55!!! That was invaluable! I'm thinking I'll put an itty bitty reciever in the center of the chassis (perhaps remove the plastic case and shrink wrap it?), and the 4 NMHD cells where the stock batteryholders go (preferably in a CF chassis! ). It should be pretty clean cut, with the exception of the mamba motor mount. I'm guessing the bigger the pinion the better. I should probably put some sort of failsafe in it too... *shrug*

If I get a new alloy front gearbox, or this one repaired, it would help a little with the weight. My concern would be with uncontrolable torque.

We will see...

-JNY

Oh, ok, but it still will be insane. A decased AE RC18T receiver will be tiny and you will be able to use the stock radio.

[pimpsmurf]

Actually, I'll probably end up using a Novak XXL AM 27mhz RX, unless I can get the stock RX from my mini inferno to work. It is suppose to work with aftermarket servos, but the stock servo only works with it. *shrug*

If it works, then all I need to get is the alloy front gearbox fixed, and buy a HS55 to scrap for it's electronics. Does anyone want the motor and gears and whatnot out of it? free+S&H...

I expect it will be insane, if it works. If I can break 60mph in a very short straight, smooth area, I will be impressed. I do have the castle link software, so I can program throttle curves and whatnot. Damned, that software is cool.

I'll probably need to get the oil shock spring set. I'm still running the stock springs on the oilies. The oil is 35wt front, 40wt rear. Pretty hard, which should be suitable for this setup. If I can find some captured ball ends that will fit, I'll go ahead and change out the upper suspension arms to captured ends with slightly longer titanium turnbuckles. If I get it set up right, I could use only 1 rear damper mount which will make it less ugly, and probably more sturdy. I don't think ph2t ever ran his into the curb like it had said long ago. I wish that carbon fiber chassis was out already... it would make me a little mess worried about the last major piece of plastic on my riz-ide.

-JNY

[viperdout]

Actually, I'll probably end up using a Novak XXL AM 27mhz RX, unless I can get the stock RX from my mini inferno to work. It is suppose to work with aftermarket servos, but the stock servo only works with it. *shrug*

If it works, then all I need to get is the alloy front gearbox fixed, and buy a HS55 to scrap for it's electronics. Does anyone want the motor and gears and whatnot out of it? free+S&H...

I expect it will be insane, if it works. If I can break 60mph in a very short straight, smooth area, I will be impressed. I do have the castle link software, so I can program throttle curves and whatnot. Damned, that software is cool.

You need the USB link as well. I bought one for 10 bucks, and I love it. Just leave the curves alone. I think you'll hit 40 or so.

[Cheesehead]

Would'nt the HS55 electronics not be happy under the current drain produced by the MZM's larger motor in the servo? I would go with a HS322 (a bigger HS55) instead for that reason.