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The devil is in the details... ZZ-M Scaler

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:19 am
by frizzen
Ok guys, Scale / Trail trucks have hit the 1/10 crawling world pretty hard. Well, as above, as below... In my warped mind, 1/64 needed to represent too.

So, here's the deal I've been working on a ZZ-M one for a while. I'm looking for suggestions for additional scale accessories.

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Mine is based on a Dodge Ram extended cab, converted to flatbed.
Exo-cage / rollbar
Winch (non-functional)
Rolled-down driver window
Trail Rash
Replaced fender

Canoe (2 seater)
Paddles
Mountain Bike
Sleeping bag
Cooler

---Not started yet---
Some interior
Rear window banner
Light kit modified to leave cab empty
Recovery Points
Snatch Strap (undecided if I'll bother)
Your good suggestions.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:15 pm
by Smoke&Mirrors
You're forgetting some of the most important off-roading accessories! You need to make a Hi-Lift Jack and some gas cans. Heaven forbid you run out of gas way out on a trail. Here is a tutorial on how to make Hi-Lift's for Xmods, it might help you out. Also, I don't know if you are up to the challenge, but all 4x4er's should carry a fire extinguisher, just in case. You could throw on a spare tire on the flat bed with some small scale bungy chords. For the snap strap, I'd recommend just cutting up a colored rubber band and using some superglue to make loops with hooks on the end. Hope that helps, most it is from personal experience.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:33 pm
by sidewinder
I wish you had posted this earlier, I just got rid of some toy soldier stuff and I had tiny military gass cans on the back of a jeep that you could have had... I donated the stuff to goodwill I'll see if they still have it out for sale.

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:11 am
by frizzen
How did I just KNOW a Hi-lift would be mentioned in the first post? :( I was dreading that because I hadn't come up with any good way to do it. At this scale, I could probably make some concessions to detail without it being too bad looking and hopefully recognizible. Maybe.

The only mention of this project had been that I had thoughts of 2 flatbeds in the 07 Year End contest, neither happened. Meh, this isn't noteworthy, sure it has a bed, but no truck is happy empty.

Converting a boxbed to flatbed isn't my favorite body mod, singlecab is easier.
The Mountain Bike was massively kicking my ass for the longest time, almost didn't stand a chance of getting done.
The Canoe and paddles were pretty quick to build, and while not the easiest they weren't too difficult, though the seats/spreaders sucked.
Cooler was pretty simple, little pain to file to size.
Sleeping bag was a snap, only took 2 tries.
Winch was very easy, but I'd already made one for Desperado.
Winch hook was a snap, as was the winch bumper mount.
Exocage intermittantly kicks my ass for fun.
I had a bullbar made, but I wasn't feeling it.
This post just made me question my sanity! :lol:

Hi-lift...........................Hard, I'll have to do some thinking.
Gas Cans.....................Probably soldier donor or 1/72 scale stuff?
Fire Extinguisher...........Probably 1/72 or hand fabricated
Spare Tire....................No, ZZ tire bigger than bed, I prefer a rollbar.
Bungie Cords...............At this scale, that's thread with the ends painted.
Snatch Strap................ I was thinking scale instead of functional.

Life jackets..................Ugh, you and your safety!
Fishing Poles................I don't really like fisning.

Honest answers, how easily identifiable is the bed detail stuff? Would you have recognized it without me having said what it was?

Keep the ideas coming!

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:53 pm
by CaboWabo
I recognized the cooler and bike and thought I saw a fishing reel. Had no idea what the thing that looks like a long straight turd was though. :lol:

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:46 pm
by Smoke&Mirrors
Wow, you really shot me down and a half there. I was thinking you could use a smaller scale spare tire like the one I glued on to the back of my project rubi. There is a picture of it in the main bit discussion. If you want one I have an extra I can mail to you. It really shouldn't be that hard to make a small scale high lift jack with just a few special tools. I'll make one today and get some pictures up. As you said, it's all about the details. So if you take a small paperclip and some sewing thread, you could easily make a 'bungy chord'. And a snatch strap that is purely decorative will just look like a regular strap. Might as well try and make one that kinds works. I would at least. But, you've inspired me to go make some mini micro equipment.

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:04 pm
by ibjamn
It'll be a perfect size for a scaler as an accessory. :-o
Kinda like a functional clod crawler for a 1/10. You just need a small remote control to set next to it when it is displayed for judging :lol:

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:13 am
by frizzen
The long turd looks better when facing the other way. Looks a little more canoe like and less like I squeezed one out. Atleast it was tapered on both ends...

Spoiler.
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S&M, sorry I didn't mean for it to come off shooting you down like that. I've been scratching my head all day trying to come up with ideas for material to use on the jack. I'm really glad for the suggestions, I just know they'll really challenge my skill.

I'm debating brass, paperclips, styrene for the jack.
A single rubber thread out of some old elastic should do for the stretchy strap.
I've made some 1/24 scale bungie cords, but would need way smaller material for these.
Still not really sold on a spare, but just because a ZZ-M is so far out of proportion. Definately a good idea, not sure for this rig though.

Hahahahaha, dude that's funny!!! A 1/64 'scaler' rig in the back of a 1/10 'scaler' rig. Pistol or Stick type Tx?

Two ZZ-M riding in the bed of a 1/10 Axial "betty body"
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:48 am
by ibjamn
That's the ticket..... pistol type. :-o

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:52 pm
by Smoke&Mirrors
No worries man. I know where you're going. So I used some sewing thread and the smaller paper clips to make some 'bungy' chords. They don't stretch really, but I just measured them to fit well. I'm using it to secure my jack and blanket to the bed of my crawler. I'll get some pics up soon. Also, I noticed that with that flat bed you have a lot of room between the chassis and the body. You could probably fit a 5th gear mod and definitely fit a 4th gear mod at the least.

Re: The devil is in the details... ZZ-M Scaler

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:47 am
by frizzen
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This was in the HiLift thread and never made it in here...