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help!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:33 pm
by SHAUN
I really need help with my zip zap monster truck gear motor set up. wat works the best for climbing hills. I have the motor upgrade kit from radio shack.

Re: help!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:41 pm
by MotorGong
SHAUN wrote:I really need help with my zip zap monster truck gear motor set up. wat works the best for climbing hills. I have the motor upgrade kit from radio shack.
I agree. When I installed my wat, it climbed hills great!
Exactly what kind of wat did you use?
We'll have to share wats sometime, man.

Re: help!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:41 pm
by hue35
SHAUN wrote:I really need help with my zip zap monster truck gear motor set up. wat works the best for climbing hills. I have the motor upgrade kit from radio shack.
Read the back of the upgrade kit... it's got pretty color-coded diagrams and everything.

Re: help!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:24 pm
by SuperFly
hue35 wrote:
SHAUN wrote:I really need help with my zip zap monster truck gear motor set up. wat works the best for climbing hills. I have the motor upgrade kit from radio shack.
Read the back of the upgrade kit... it's got pretty color-coded diagrams and everything.
In case you don't understand the diagrams, you want torque rather than speed for going uphill. :?

Re: hey

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:32 pm
by skylinekid
SHAUN wrote:hey im not stupid
I still think you are :-) Pass english in grades 1-7 and I might change my mind :?

Re: hey

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:39 pm
by MotorGong
SHAUN wrote:hey im not stupid i know tuque speed like u need more torque towing somthing and diesel engine diliver more torque than gasoline engines so u get the piont i just dont know wat motor and gear set up is best for toque
C'mon, dude. Part of the fun, for me at least, was just downright experimenting.
Try all different combinations of motor/gears to suit your driving environment at that time.

Re: hey

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:43 pm
by skylinekid
MotorGong wrote:
SHAUN wrote:hey im not stupid i know tuque speed like u need more torque towing somthing and diesel engine diliver more torque than gasoline engines so u get the piont i just dont know wat motor and gear set up is best for toque
C'mon, dude. Part of the fun, for me at least, was just downright experimenting.
Try all different combinations of motor/gears to suit your driving environment at that time.
Thats what i did too. I just got my first ZZMT 2 or 3 days ago, and i was exparamenting like crazy!!! :-)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:51 pm
by codesuidae
An electric motor opereates quite differently from a piston engine. A piston engine generates maximum torque at a particular RPM, usually somewhere near its max RPM. Electric motors generate the most torque at their slowest speed (when they are stalled), and the least torque at their highest speed. They generate the most power at 1/2 max RPM.

Different motors will generate different amounts of torque, and have different maximum speeds depeding on how they are made. The two values aren't necessarily linked, meaning that low speed motors aren't always high torque, sometimes they are just crappy motors :smile:

The combination of torque and speed is 'power'. If a given motor can put out 1 watt of power it may be spinning slowly with a lot of torque, or quickly with a little torque. You can use gears to trade torque for power or power for torque, but the mor gears you have, the more power you loose to friction.

So, for hill climbing you should choose a motor that can handle the most power, then gear it down so that the output runs slowly with lots of torque. Watch out that you don't have to gear it down too much or you'll have difficulty with fricton in the gears.

Also be aware that all the torque in the world is useless if you cannot couple it to the ground. If your tires slip, you cannot use the available torque. With these little trucks its usually harder to get good grip than it is to get good torque. They are very powerful for their size. So you will need to focus on your tires and suspension. Sometimes it is useful to raise your gearing to spin the tires faster so that you can use the inertia of the truck to aid in your traction. There are times when a slowly turning tire will just slip, but a quickly spinning tire will gain traction and move the vehicle.

ok

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:52 pm
by SHAUN
ill experiment. oh that gear cover im working on isnt going so well i cut my hand open. Im getting ready to work on it again dont worry ill get it done

Re: ok

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:54 pm
by skylinekid
SHAUN wrote:ill experiment. oh that gear cover im working on isnt going so well i cut my hand open. Im getting ready to work on it again dont worry ill get it done
We arn't worrying, TRUST ME :-)

Re: ok

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:25 pm
by sessiz
skylinekid wrote:
SHAUN wrote:ill experiment. oh that gear cover im working on isnt going so well i cut my hand open. Im getting ready to work on it again dont worry ill get it done
We arn't worrying, TRUST ME :-)
I'm pretty damn worried (not really though). :???:
You seem to forget that the kid allready broke 3 fingers on his hand from a dirtbike accident. Show some compassion skylinekid, you once needed it too, remember? :lol:

Edit- Oh yeah and you both suck really hard. :-)

Re: ok

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:36 pm
by skylinekid
sessiz wrote:Edit- Oh yeah and you both suck really hard. :-)
I'll take that as a complement :-)

Re: its really me

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:54 pm
by Tuner1989
SHAUN wrote:somebody keeps playin on msn sayin its me but it aint
Um ok?

Re: its really me

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:55 pm
by sessiz
Tuner1989 wrote:
SHAUN wrote:somebody keeps playin on msn sayin its me but it aint
Um ok?
Shhhhhh. :-)

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:17 pm
by arfin
Skyline, don't talk about spelling bro, i remember when you spelled that way, by the way it's EXPERIMENTING. Also if you don't have the packaging go here:
http://zipzaps.com/gears.asp