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A question from the electronically challenged.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:38 pm
by sidewinder
OK, I am working on my micro sprint car build-- http://bitpimps.lixlink.com/pages/phpFo ... highlight=-- and I’ve decided I want to hide the wires. Can I just solder extensions on the existing wires, and then solder them to the board? I thought I’d ask before running to the radio shack and trying to match the wire gauge. Sorry for the dumb question but the extent of my electrical knowledge is soldering and following step by step instructions. I’m planning on trying some of the tutorials soon but for now I’m just working on my physical moding skills. Thanks.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:41 pm
by Murdoch
yea I don't see a problem with it, just as long as you make sure the joints are heatshrinked.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:27 pm
by SuperFly
Murdoch wrote:yea I don't see a problem with it, just as long as you make sure the joints are heatshrinked.
Yeah,ya gotta do that or if the connection points touch eachother you'll get a short. I think getting some new wire the right guage and length will actually be easier, but I don't know if you'd find the right kind at RS. Theirs tends to be a little too rigid.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:38 pm
by redrustbucket
I second replacing them entirely. I picked some up from RS but it sucked. I like to use servo wire off of busted 1/10 servos. It's a little bigger guage but way better wire. You could pick up some long extensions if you don't have any laying around.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:15 pm
by sidewinder
Thanks, I guess I'll go to the electronics store down the road. They have just about anything you can imagine, I just hate going there because the clerks enjoy making you feel like shit. I suppose they have to do something for pleasure. I mean its not like they're ever getting laid or anything.

Now that you say it, it does make more sence to just replace the whole wire(s). Plus the added advantage is I can use all black wire making it easier to hide.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:39 pm
by SuperFly
sidewinder wrote:Plus the added advantage is I can use all black wire making it easier to hide.
Hmm, there's about 6 or 8 wires in there that you have to keep track of which is going where. At the very least, I'd get some red and some black, and Sharpie any exposed red that bugs you. If all your wires are black, I could see how you could make a wrong connection and short out a board.

When you go to the electronics store, bring a piece of internal bit wire with you to show them what you're looking for. The flexibility of the insulation is as important as the guage, as well as solid core vs. stranded.

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:08 am
by frizzen
You can splice and replace them all to your hearts content. Don't change the length of the antenna though.

I've noticed that most wire I've gotten from Radiohack has really crappy insulation that melts off when you try and tin the ends. Atleast the electronics nerds who make you feel like crap could be helpful; at RadioHack if it's not a question about buying a phone, they retreat in fear.

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:09 pm
by sidewinder
Thanks, I knew that about the antenna but I'm glad you reminded me. Ok, one even dumber question: I don't suppose there is anyway of heating and bending the board without breaking all of hose tiny conections and ruining the board, is there? I only ask because if I could get the board U shaped I have a really cool idea for the next project...either that or if cold find a really small board... I know, it's probably a really dumb question.

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:48 pm
by Dangerous Dave
if it's the circuit board you're referring to, not a chance.

they are usually fibreglass, which is a thermosetting resin and doesn't soften with heat.

even if it did, most of the electrical tracks on the surface would be ruined.

but it shows you're thinking outside the square :-o

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:41 pm
by sidewinder
Yeah it was the circiut board, I thought it looked like fiberglass but I was hopeing I was wrong. Oh well, maybe I figgure something else out...I wonder if any of the Infared boards would be small enough? I guess I'll have to start looking for IR's and see what the dimensions are. :???: Thanks.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:43 pm
by crazydave
frizzen wrote: at RadioHack if it's not a question about buying a phone, they retreat in fear.
Get this, I sent my wife in for a 4 AA battery holder. I didn't think I needed to look up a catalog # because I thought it was common knowledge what a battery holder is. The girl behind the counter actually responded with a blank stare. I'm mind boggled by that.

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:45 pm
by SHAUN
I asked "do you have a tip for a soldering iron?" The guy behind the counter asked "What is that?"

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:04 pm
by Murdoch
That's when I usually bail

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 1:08 am
by frizzen
Anybody know how big the PCB out of a Tomy Q-Steer would be? I know the cars are smaller than Bits, at Charo-q size so I'd think electronics should be also.

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:51 pm
by sidewinder
Hey, those do look tiny...I've never had one but... :???:

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