Epoch or Micro Baja?

sidewinder · Post by **sidewinder** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:47 pm

I was thinking of building a mini pan car...like my old Bolink but smaller. I've never had an Epoch 1/43 or a Micro T/Baja/Stadium Truck. So, for those who have, which would be the best source of electronics? I'm looking for the best control vs just all out speed. Any thoughts?

SHAUN · Post by **SHAUN** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:29 pm

Micro-T/B/DT

sg219 · Post by **sg219** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:58 pm

Micro-T

ibjamn · Post by **ibjamn** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:35 am

micro -t/b/dt x 2......3.....4....5...6..7..8

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:58 am

Looks like there's not a whole lot of need for me to reply, so here's a link for the Micro-T PCB.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/De ... D=LOSB0803

Epoch's electronics were its downfall.

oldtamiyaphile · Post by **oldtamiyaphile** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:07 am

crazydave wrote:Epoch's electronics were its downfall.

I wouldn't say that. You can add a turbo/ fet stack like any other board. The stuttery control issue was actually because the cars are not fully compatible with the Kyosho KT-2. They work much better with other brands of TX. On the plus side if you can find one, a PCB is $8, beat that!

Micro-T electronics aren't that great either.

Mini-Z has them all beat

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:40 pm

oldtamiyaphile wrote:
crazydave wrote:Epoch's electronics were its downfall.
I wouldn't say that. You can add a turbo/ fet stack like any other board. The stuttery control issue was actually because the cars are not fully compatible with the Kyosho KT-2. They work much better with other brands of TX. On the plus side if you can find one, a PCB is $8, beat that!

Micro-T electronics aren't that great either.

Mini-Z has them all beat

Understood, but the reason I said they were the downfall, is because Joe Smoe isn't gonna know about turbos and irlf7317 FETs and all that jazz. That's fine for me, but it's my personal opinion they would have sold a lot more if they were faster and had more punch out of the box, and I can't argue with the price.

I would like to hear what problems you have with the Micro-T board because I've had no problems, though I can see how the 5-wire sevo might be an issue for some.

I was under the impression Mini-Zs had weak steering, or at least that's what I remember being told, when I complained about my Iwaver's steering.

sidewinder · Post by **sidewinder** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:52 pm

Thanks guys, Looks like the micro t is probably the ay to go

Crazdave wrote:

Joe Smoe isn't gonna know about turbos and irlf7317 FETs and all that jazz.

Neither does sidewinder...well I know what they are but as far as doing anything about it???

I guess I'm off to ebay to look for a beat-up micro t. If anyone sees any cheap at a local LHS or online let me know please

Or I guess for $80 rtr I could just break down and buy a new one for the doner, its only a little over a tank of gas price wise.

oldtamiyaphile · Post by **oldtamiyaphile** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:15 am

crazydave wrote:Understood, but the reason I said they were the downfall, is because Joe Smoe isn't gonna know about turbos and irlf7317 FETs and all that jazz. That's fine for me, but it's my personal opinion they would have sold a lot more if they were faster and had more punch out of the box, and I can't argue with the price.

I would like to hear what problems you have with the Micro-T board because I've had no problems, though I can see how the 5-wire sevo might be an issue for some.

I was under the impression Mini-Zs had weak steering, or at least that's what I remember being told, when I complained about my Iwaver's steering.

The Mini-Z was never that fast out of the box either, and did/does require stacks for real speed. On a scale/speed ratio, the Epoch and MZ are about equal.

The MZ steering has always been fast enough for me. Possibly the n20 motor is a bit bigger than it really needs to be. Xmods have pager motors after all, and once you swap it for a 2.2 or better they steer quickly too, while drawing a lot less juice.

My only problem with the Micro-T board is the low-end responce, too much low end power makes it difficult to drive on slick tracks. I think this is why ph2t swapped a Z board into his truck.